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	<title>Comments on: Where are the World&#8217;s Most Innovative Places?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lydgate.

"Just walk around Shoreditch on the first Thursday of the month — the number of creative types would leave any banker feeling ostracized."

I lived in Shoreditch from 1992-1998. you could rent or buy a genuine industrial loft for less than a tenth of the current price (A 1000sq. ft loft was less than 40,000 GBP then). At the time the area had the largest number of artists in Europe.

I visited Shoreditch for the first time in 5 years, a month ago. In the bars, stores and in the East London branch of Soho House, there were many bankers mixing with locals. The  mix of people was reminiscent of the denizens of West London's gentrified areas such as Notting Hill in the 80s. People ranged from trust fund hipsters to bankers to students and some locals, but there was no indication of cutting edge artists compared to somewhere like Berlin.

I would suggest that Shoreditch is actually emblematic of London's imminent decline. Like New York's Williamsburg, it looks gritty like when it was cool, but has an enormous amount of money flowing through it which distracts people from the fact that it is no longer a creative center. 

The majority of artists have gone from Shoreditch and the flow of money is about to shut off. It will still be gritty but in a depressing, empty way, like a boarded up nightclub.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lydgate.</p>
<p>&#8220;Just walk around Shoreditch on the first Thursday of the month — the number of creative types would leave any banker feeling ostracized.&#8221;</p>
<p>I lived in Shoreditch from 1992-1998. you could rent or buy a genuine industrial loft for less than a tenth of the current price (A 1000sq. ft loft was less than 40,000 GBP then). At the time the area had the largest number of artists in Europe.</p>
<p>I visited Shoreditch for the first time in 5 years, a month ago. In the bars, stores and in the East London branch of Soho House, there were many bankers mixing with locals. The  mix of people was reminiscent of the denizens of West London&#8217;s gentrified areas such as Notting Hill in the 80s. People ranged from trust fund hipsters to bankers to students and some locals, but there was no indication of cutting edge artists compared to somewhere like Berlin.</p>
<p>I would suggest that Shoreditch is actually emblematic of London&#8217;s imminent decline. Like New York&#8217;s Williamsburg, it looks gritty like when it was cool, but has an enormous amount of money flowing through it which distracts people from the fact that it is no longer a creative center. </p>
<p>The majority of artists have gone from Shoreditch and the flow of money is about to shut off. It will still be gritty but in a depressing, empty way, like a boarded up nightclub.</p>
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		<title>By: Lydgate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lydgate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 06:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with some of your criticisms about London, but strongly disagree that artists and creative types can't afford to live here.  I'm not one of them (I work in IT) but I meet them constantly.  They may not be able to afford to live in South Kensington or other banker areas of London, but they still live very centrally.  Just walk around Shoreditch on the first Thursday of the month -- the number of creative types would leave any banker feeling ostracized.

And as Ben says, it's still a blast here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with some of your criticisms about London, but strongly disagree that artists and creative types can&#8217;t afford to live here.  I&#8217;m not one of them (I work in IT) but I meet them constantly.  They may not be able to afford to live in South Kensington or other banker areas of London, but they still live very centrally.  Just walk around Shoreditch on the first Thursday of the month &#8212; the number of creative types would leave any banker feeling ostracized.</p>
<p>And as Ben says, it&#8217;s still a blast here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Gladstone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Gladstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, lies, damned lies, etc... all of silicon valley or Tokyo is compared with Reading UK? no wonder the big agglomerations have higher diversity. And the period for momentum is suspect - looking at http://www.uspto.gov/go/taf/cst_all.pdf - you get total UK patent growth of 49% in 97-06 vs US of 46%, which suggests the UK's holding its own. But shift two years to 99-08 and you get -2% for both UK and US. Sod the bankers, the management consultants need hunting...
-ben
PS london's still fun, drop by sometime!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, lies, damned lies, etc&#8230; all of silicon valley or Tokyo is compared with Reading UK? no wonder the big agglomerations have higher diversity. And the period for momentum is suspect - looking at <a href="http://www.uspto.gov/go/taf/cst_all.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.uspto.gov/go/taf/cst_all.pdf</a> - you get total UK patent growth of 49% in 97-06 vs US of 46%, which suggests the UK&#8217;s holding its own. But shift two years to 99-08 and you get -2% for both UK and US. Sod the bankers, the management consultants need hunting&#8230;<br />
-ben<br />
PS london&#8217;s still fun, drop by sometime!</p>
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